Comments on OpenOffice.org Ninja: Microsoft support for OpenDocument (ODF)

If what Razvan is saying is true, then indeed, jza...

2009-09-04T14:51:43.692-06:00

If what Razvan is saying is true, then indeed, jzarecta's suspicion of a Trojan Horse type of a gift is also validated.

Aren't these the signs of desperation of a company who, failing to achieve its goals through giving quality, resorts to subtle unethical stealth tactics?

Hello, Please DON'T USE MS OFFICE'S ODF SAVING FE...

2009-05-10T01:03:00.000-06:00

Hello,

Please DON'T USE MS OFFICE'S ODF SAVING FEATURE ! It will produce badly broken (and non-interoperable) ODF documents.

Rob Weir, a co-autor tells us why:

http://www.robweir.com/blog/2009/05/update-on-odf-spreadsheet.html
http://www.robweir.com/blog/2009/05/follow-up-on-excel-2007-sp2s-odf.html

Actually, it's a move to SABOTAGE ODF, not to comply to the standard !

For my fellow Romanian readers, here are details:

http://razvansandu.zando.ro/2009/05/fisiere-opendocument-in-ms-office-2007.html

Regards,
Răzvan

Please be aware of possible fragmentation to incre...

2009-05-06T11:17:00.000-06:00

Please be aware of possible fragmentation to increase from the Microsoft side, before praising them I think we need more info to really understand if we are getting a Troya Horse kind of gift.

http://homembit.com/2009/05/microsoft-now-attempt-to-fragment-odf.html

What OpenOffice will need is a OLPC/ Sugar style X...

2009-05-05T13:26:00.000-06:00

What OpenOffice will need is a OLPC/ Sugar style XML collaboration, so that once a group of OOo users sign into a XMPP (Jabber) server, their word processors, spreadsheets, etc can collaborate in real time.

Sugar uses Telepathy (http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/) to do this. Abiword is Sugar's default word processor, which supports this kind of collaboration. I wonder how much work OOo platform will require to make this happen.

@pvilela I dont think alfresco can beat Sharepoint...

2009-05-04T15:21:00.000-06:00

@pvilela I dont think alfresco can beat Sharepoint. However I think that more ODF backends are needed so that the market opportunity grows for ODF as far as vendors concentrating on a standard grows.

I think sharepoint is very closed and the difference is having open platforms on the backend that can improve organically.

I am not an expert on sharepoint however it seems is really a stack of different products all by microsoft.

Would it be easier to combat that with our own modifications like having mediawiki be more ODF friendly or the recent www-at-odf.openoffice.org become a ramework for new backend ODF processing houses?

Just wait for it. We're at the "Embrace" step now...

2009-05-04T15:11:00.000-06:00

Just wait for it. We're at the "Embrace" step now. Just wait until we get to "Extend" and MS starts adding features that only MS Office can read. Might not extend the spec or anything, but there are probably a lot of subtle things they can do without breaking any rules.

Yes, that's why we must help the Alfresco guys to ...

2009-05-04T11:08:00.000-06:00

Yes, that's why we must help the Alfresco guys to battle Sharepoint

Also, check Rob Weir's article on ODF compatibility
http://www.robweir.com/blog/2009_05_01_robweir_archive.html